DO THE 5 MONTHS CONTAIN ALL OF THE STRIPES OF HELL?
Updated - 2/10/11
There are many verses in the Bible that speak of conscious affliction that the unsaved must endure as payment for their sins. Many of these verses can be found in studies on this website: www.isannihilationtrue.com . Yet, it is argued that only the unsaved here on May 21, 2011 will receive “stripes” or conscious affliction for their sins. Does this teaching agree with the Bible?
One passage that talks about the fact that those that knew more of the Bible will receive more “stripes”, or conscious affliction, as punishment for sin is found in Luke 12:47-48. We read there:
47 And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
Some people argue that the context of this passage only applies to those here at the Rapture. However, a careful study of the context shows that it applies to all of the unsaved throughout time. This study is contained in the link below:
In the above link there is a lot of information to help understand Luke 12:47-48 that goes along with the material in this study.
In Luke 12:47-48, God talks about the “lord’s will”. What is the “lord’s will”?
The Bible itself defines the “lord’s will”. The “Lord” in these verses of course refers to God. To understand what God means by the “lord’s will” in Luke 12:47-48 we examine other passages that use the word “will” to see how God defines this word:
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will <2307> be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
This is the Lord’s prayer. The prayer is that the Lord’s “will” would be done on earth. The “Lord’s will” is the whole Bible. We pray that everything that God has declared in the Bible will come to pass.
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will <2307> of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:21 is describing the character of the true believer. He is one that “doeth the will of my Father”. The “will of my Father” is the whole Bible. The true believer is endeavoring to follow the whole Bible.
Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will <2307> of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
Matthew 12:50 is talking about the true believers who are part of the family of God, as represented by the titles “brother, and sister, and mother” of the Lord Jesus. The “will” to which God refers in this verse is the whole Bible. That is what the true believers do.
Romans 2:18 And knowest his will <2307>, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
In Romans 2:18 God is talking about the Jews and their knowledge of the Old Testament which was the Bible that was available in their time. God talks about how they knew His “will”. The Jews knew the Old Testament. Notice that God adds at the end of the verse that they were “instructed out of the law”. The “law” refers to the whole Bible, which was the Old Testament for the Jews since that was all that was available in their time. In Romans 2:18 God identifies the “will” of God with the “law” of God, which is the whole Bible.
These are a few verses in which God defines what the “Lord’s will” is. Without doubt, the “Lord’s will” is the whole Bible.
God defines terms by how He uses them in the Bible. No where does the Bible teach that the “Lord’s will” is limited to some new teachings coming today. Rather, the Bible defines the “Lord’s will” as the whole Bible.
Every human being is the servant of God, both the saved and the unsaved. Luke 12:47-48 is focused upon the unsaved servants. We see here that every unsaved servant is "beaten" with some "stripes". The two Greek words translated “beaten” and “stripes” in these verses always signify conscious affliction. Below are verses that use this same Greek word translated “stripes”:
Luke 10:30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded <4127> him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
Acts 16:23 And when they had laid many stripes <4127> upon them, they cast them into prison, charging the jailor to keep them safely:
Acts 16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes <4127>; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
2 Corinthians 6:5 In stripes <4127>, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
2 Corinthians 11:23 Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes <4127> above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.
This word “stripes” identifies with conscious suffering. So, all the unsaved will experience "stripes", a conscious affliction, from God as payment for their sins.
In connection with the payment for sin God also talks about the unsaved servants being "beaten". Even the servant that did not know the master's will was still "beaten". The servant that knew the master's will was "beaten" more.
God is indicating that the payment for sin, hell, involves being "beaten", a conscious affliction. Below are verses with this word "beaten":
Matthew 21:35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat <1194> one, and killed another, and stoned another.
Mark 12:3 And they caught him, and beat <1194> him, and sent him away empty.
Mark 12:5 And again he sent another; and him they killed, and many others; beating some <1194>, and killing some.
Mark 13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten <1194>: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
Luke 20:10 And at the season he sent a servant to the husbandmen, that they should give him of the fruit of the vineyard: but the husbandmen beat <1194> him, and sent him away empty.
Luke 20:11 And again he sent another servant: and they beat <1194> him also, and entreated him shamefully, and sent him away empty.
Luke 22:63 And the men that held Jesus mocked him, and smote <1194> him.
John 18:23 Jesus answered him, If I have spoken evil, bear witness of the evil: but if well, why smitest <1194> thou me?
Acts 5:40 And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten <1194> them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go.
Acts 16:37 But Paul said unto them, They have beaten <1194> us openly uncondemned, being Romans, and have cast us into prison; and now do they thrust us out privily? nay verily; but let them come themselves and fetch us out.
Acts 22:19 And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat <1194> in every synagogue them that believed on thee:
2 Corinthians 11:20 For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devour you, if a man take of you, if a man exalt himself, if a man smite <1194> you on the face.
God defines words by how He uses them in the Bible. We see that God defines both of these words, “stripes” and “beaten”, found in Luke 12:47-48 as identifying with conscious affliction. Thus we can know that this passage talks about a payment for sin of conscious affliction.
The beating with stripes does not refer to suffering in this world.
Several passages in the Bible indicate that the unsaved can pass through their sojourn in this world without noteworthy suffering or stripes. For example we read:
We read in Psalm 73:1-12:
¶ <<A Psalm of Asaph.>> Truly God is good to
2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.
3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.
5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.
7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.
8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.
9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.
10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.
11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?
12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
Notice how in Psalm 73:1-12 that God says that unsaved people can enjoy this world very much and have very few problems. Also, as indicated in verse 4, the unsaved can die from this world without suffering.
We read in Job 21:7-15:
7 ¶ Wherefore do the wicked live, become old, yea, are mighty in power?
8 Their seed is established in their sight with them, and their offspring before their eyes.
9 Their houses are safe from fear, neither is the rod of God upon them.
10 Their bull gendereth, and faileth not; their cow calveth, and casteth not her calf.
11 They send forth their little ones like a flock, and their children dance.
12 They take the timbrel and harp, and rejoice at the sound of the organ.
13 They spend their days in wealth, and in a moment go down to the grave.
14 Therefore they say unto God, Depart from us; for we desire not the knowledge of thy ways.
15 What is the Almighty, that we should serve him? and what profit should we have, if we pray unto him?
Job 21:7-15 has a similar theme as Psalm 73:1-12. We read in Job 21 that the unsaved can have many blessings in this world. As a result, they do not care about God. This is shown in verses 14 & 15. In verse 13 God says that the unsaved can die from this world peacefully.
We read in Luke 16:19-22:
19 ¶ There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
This rich man enjoys his sojourn in this world without any statement of difficulties.
In addition, John 9:1-3, Exodus 4:10-11 and Luke 13:1-5 teach that disabilities, hardships or sufferings in this world are not a payment for sin but rather are a part of God’s plan for mankind and a part of God’s curse on this world. God makes us with various strengths and weaknesses and that is not because of any specific sin that we have committed. Because of blindness someone can have a very difficult time in this world and suffer greatly, yet that has nothing to do with specific sin that he or his parents have committed. It is part of the general curse of God upon this world.
Thus, we know from several passages that the “stripes” and “beating” of Luke 12:47-48 are not fulfilled in this world.
Luke 12:47-48 says that all unsaved servants receive some stripes and since the Bible teaches that they are not fulfilled in this world, a conscious awaking at Judgment Day is required for their fulfillment.
Notice the last part of Luke 12:48. It uses the words "much" and "more". These words broaden the application of this verse from just the person who didn't know any of the master's will and the person who knew all of the master's will (which is not possible). That is Luke 12:47-48 covers the whole range of unsaved mankind from those that never heard about the Bible all the way to the unsaved person with the most knowledge of the Bible.
God gives specific application of Luke 12:47-48 to people who have lived and died in the past, confirming that this passage does not just apply to people here at the Rapture.
We read in Matthew 11:20-24:
20 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:
21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
22 But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable <414> for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
24 But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable <414> for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.
13 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
14 But it shall be more tolerable <414> for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you.
In these passages, Jesus faults those people to whom He had spent much time preaching. Jesus had even done “mighty works” to show these people that He was from God. But, the people did not listen. They “repented not” as verse 20 indicates.
Jesus compares these people to Tyre and Sidon and Sodom. The people of these three cities did not receive very much or any preaching of the Gospel. Jesus also indicates that if the people in those three cities had seen the “mighty works” that Jesus did in the regions of Galilee, those people would have repented. But, the people in Tyre and Sidon and Sodom were never exposed to the preaching of the Gospel nor had they seen the “mighty works” that Jesus was doing for the people in Chorazin, Bethsaida and Capernaum.
As a result of not receiving as much of the Gospel, Judgment Day will be “more tolerable” for Tyre, Sidon and Sodom, than it will be for the cities of Galilee that reached much Gospel preaching, yet repented not.
We remember that God defines words by how He uses them in the Bible. This Greek word translated “tolerable” is always used to indicate conscious experience. This Greek word is examined carefully in the study at the link below in the section titled “Six verses declare that judgment day will be more “tolerable” ”
Each usage of this Greek word translated “tolerable” indicates conscious experience. By this, God is defining that this Greek word signifies conscious experience.
The Greek word translated “tolerable” in these verses is always used to indicate conscious experience. God is teaching that the non-repentant people of Galilee will receive more conscious affliction at Judgment Day than those of Tyre, Sidon and Sodom.
This confirms that those people, who died from this world about 2,000 years ago, will awake to consciousness at Judgment Day.
Matthew 11:20-24 and Luke 10:13-14 also follow the law of Luke 12:47-48 that teaches that those who knew less of the Gospel will receive less stripes that those heard more of the Gospel and yet turned away from it.
Judgment Day for the people of Tyre, Sidon and Sodom will be “more tolerable” than for those people of Galilee who saw many of the “mighty works” of the Lord Jesus yet repented not. Judgment Day will be “more tolerable” for them because they will receive less stripes.
Matthew 11:20-24 and Luke 10:13-14 confirm the teaching of Luke 12:47-48 for people who have lived and died from this world during the days of Jesus.
Let us consider another application of the law of Luke 12:47-48 to those that have previously died.
We now consider three verses from passages in which Jesus is instructing the true believers about bringing the Gospel throughout the New Testament era. We read the following 3 verses from those passages:
Matthew 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable <414> for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Mark 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable <414> for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Luke 10:12: But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable <414> in that day for Sodom, than for that city.
Each of these passages talks about the true believers bringing the Gospel throughout the New Testament era. Three times, we see the Greek word translated “tolerable”. As shown in the referenced study, this Greek word always signifies conscious experience. God is giving a warning to mankind through the approximate 2,000 years of the New Testament era of what will happen to him if he rejects the Gospel. Specifically, that he will experience conscious affliction as part of the punishment for sin.
God compares those people that hear the Gospel throughout the New Testament era to those of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha, Tyre and Sidon. In this way, the comparison here is similar to that made in Matthew 11:20-24 and Luke 10:13-14 that we just studied. The people of Sodom and Gomorrha, Tyre and Sidon heard very little of the Gospel. They knew very little of the Lord’s will and these verses are saying that Judgment Day will be “more tolerable” for them that those people in the New Testament that heard more of the Gospel message and turned away from it. That is equivalent to saying that they will receive few stripes.
This agrees with the principle of Luke 12:47-48 that the unsaved servant who knew less of the Lord’s will, like those of Sodom and Gomorrha, Tyre and Sidon, will receive less stripes. Judgment Day will be “more tolerable” for them.
These verses involve conscious suffering. God is teaching us in these passages that the payment for sin involves conscious suffering. From the least guilty to the most guilty, there is conscious suffering. For those that lived and died thousands of years ago, and those that live until the end, there is conscious suffering.
THERE ARE MANY PROBLEMS RECONCILING THE TEACHINGS OF THE BIBLE WITH THE TEACHING THAT ONLY THE UNSAVED LEFT BEHIND ON MAY 21, 2011 WILL EXPERIENCE ANY “STRIPES” (OR CONSCIOUS AFFLICTION) OF THE WRATH OF GOD.
We will now examine some of those problems.
1. The bible teaches that there will be people that will not hear about May 21, 2011, and yet will be left behind to receive many stripes.
Let’s consider two passages that talk about conditions at the time of the Rapture. First, we read in Matthew 24:37-39:
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
In Matthew 24:37-39 God is likening the days before the Rapture to the days before the flood. God says that “as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” The conditions before the Rapture will be the same to those in the days of Noah in the respect that God describes in Matthew 24:37-39.
God says “For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark”. This is the language of “business as usual”. People are eating and drinking, a necessary thing in this world. Also, people are continuing with their future plans, a big part of which is marriage.
Then, God indicates that there were people who did not know that the flood was about to come. God says that they “knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
God says that there were people who did not know about the coming of the flood and that the same conditions will occur at the Rapture. There will be people who do not know about the coming of the Rapture as we read in the language, “so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
God is teaching in Mathew 24:37-39 that there will be people who do not hear about the Rapture coming on May 21, 2011.
Yes, Noah was a “preacher of righteousness” as we read about in 2 Peter 2:5. The mere fact that he was building the large ark on dry ground was proclaiming or preaching that judgment is coming. Also, he would have told anyone near him that would listen.
However, over the about 6,000 years since creation, people would have spread out to find new and better farming lands, so there would have been people many miles away, perhaps hundreds of miles away. There was no method of communication beside word of mouth. Also, people were pretty busy growing enough food and raising their families, so most people would not have traveled much. Thus, many people who were far from Noah would never had heard about the ark or the proclamations of Noah. They are the ones that “knew not until the flood came”.
People can argue that everyone knew about the flood of Noah’s day, but we simply have to listen to God and we can know that there were people who “knew not until the flood came”. Jesus says that it will be the same way at the Rapture. There will be people that do not know.
In Luke 17:28-30 God likens the coming of the Rapture to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. We read there:
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of
29 But the same day that Lot went out of
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
Verse 28 says that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah went along with business as usual. They did not know that the next day God was going to rain fire and brimstone down from heaven upon them. Verse 29 indicates that this judgment came upon them the “same day” that Lot went out of Sodom. This is important because Genesis 19:23-24 indicates that when the sun was risen God rained fire and brimstone down upon Sodom and Gomorrah. In other words, the judgment came at the first light of morning. The two visitors came to Lot in the evening, and by the time the sun came up, Lot was out of Sodom and the judgment fell upon them. People could not travel at night back then. Therefore the people of Gomorrah could not have received any warning of the coming judgment. They did not know that the judgment was coming. God is saying that it will be the same way at the time of the Rapture.
A careful reading of Luke 17:28-30 and the accounts of Genesis 18 and 19 show that the people of Gomorrah could not have known about the coming judgment. There was no way to communicate a message to another city at night time. Jesus says that it will be the same way for some people at the time of the Rapture.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that everyone will know when the Rapture is coming. Rather, the Bible specifically teaches in Luke 17:26-30 and Matthew 24:37-39 that not everyone will know.
For more information on this subject, please see the study at the link below:
2. Since the Bible teaches that there will be those left behind that did not know about the Rapture, there will be those that “knew not”, yet they will receive more stripes.
As indicated by the verses cited above, the Bible teaches that there will be people who do not hear about May 21, 2011. Yet, these people will be left behind to “be beaten with many stripes”. They will suffer the “stripes” of the 5 months.
In fact, these people will not know that there are 5 months of “many stripes” and, after that, the destruction of the universe. If they knew that information, they could commit suicide on May 22, 2011 and avoid much of the stripes. However, because they knew less of the “lord’s will”, they will be subjected to “many stripes”.
This is the opposite of what Luke 12:47-48 teaches and thus gives further indication that the teaching of annihilation does not agree with the Bible.
3. More than 1,000,000 people die each week and as we get closer to May 21, 2011, an increasing percentage of them will have heard about May 21, 2011. Yet they will die before that date without receiving any stripes.
Each week more than 1,000,000 people die worldwide. In a year that is more than 50 million people. Over the past few years, the message about May 21, 2011 has been broadcast world-wide, and is now reaching people in more than 50 languages.
As time has gone on, an increasing percentage of people will know about May 21, 2011. Yet, every week one million them die. As we draw closer to May 21, 2011 the percentage of those that know about May 21, 2011 who die will be continuing to increase.
There are people very close to the big source of the proclamation about May 21, 2011 and the details of Judgment Day who have heard many details about the coming of Judgment Day. Many of these people have rejected the new teachings and yet these people have already died. They have received none of the “stripes” promised by Luke 12:47-48 that are promised to the unsaved, even though they were quite knowledgeable about the new teachings.
About 1/3 of those 1 million people dying per week will be church people. Many of whom have had a lot of exposure to the Bible and many of whom had heard a lot of the new teachings, and have rejected them. Yet, they will escape with no stripes. This does not agree with Luke 12:47-48.
We remember the statement of Luke 12:47-48:
47 And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
God talks about those that knew more of the Lord’s will and who will receive more stripes. It is argued that these verses only apply to the knowledge of the Rapture on May 21, 2011 and some other new teachings. Yet, there are people who were very close to the source of these new teachings, who strongly disagreed with them, and they have already died without any “stripes”. There is no fulfillment of Luke 12:47-48 for them.
But this does not fit the description of Luke 12:47-48 that says that the servant that knew the Lord’s will shall be beaten with many stripes. There will be a number of these knowledgeable servants that will escape the 5 months and the many stripes by reason of death.
Let's consider 3 verses from Revelation 18 speaking about the torments of the wrath of God coming upon the unsaved in the churches at the end:
Revelation 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
Revelation 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
Revelation 18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
These verses indicate that a part of the wrath of God coming upon the unsaved in the churches at the end is torment, which the Bible defines as conscious suffering. The "she" or Babylon in this passages comprises the unsaved church people. However, the actual wrath of God comes upon individuals and not collectively on a church or denomination.
Each unsaved person must receive the wrath of God appropriate for their sin, including the "torments" talked about here.
Notice the suffering is in portion to how much someone “glorified” himself according to verse 7. There are many unsaved church people who have died over the centuries that have “glorified” themselves and yet have received no stripes.
Also, there will be a percentage of those unsaved church people here on May 21, 2011 that will escape suffering the due "torments" because they will commit suicide. Knowledgeable unsaved church people will be able to commit suicide when they see that the proclamation of Judgment Day on May 21, 2011 was correct. We know that a percentage of people will commit suicide if their circumstances get bad enough. That was seen during the Great Depression and is seen in suicide statistics.
Others will die before May 21, 2011 even though they had heard many of the new teachings.
How can the justice of God be satisfied, which includes appropriate suffering for the unsaved church people at the end, if they are able to escape that torment by committing suicide?
4. Those people mentioned in Matthew 24:38-39 that knew not about the Rapture and Judgment Day will be left behind to suffer many “stripes” while people very knowledge will die a few weeks before May 21, 2011 and will not receive any stripes.
We just saw how the Matthew 24:38-39 and Luke 17:28-30 teach that there will be those left behind at the Rapture who did not know that the Rapture was coming on May 21, 2011. These people knew less of the Lord’s Will, especially the important truth of the timing of Judgment Day. Yet these people will receive more stripes.
On the other hand, there are more than 1,000,000 people that die each week. A growing percentage of those people will hear about May 21, 2011. They will know more of the Lord’s will. Yet, they will avoid all of the stripes of the 5 months by dying a few weeks before that date.
This is the opposite of the teaching of Luke 12:47-48.
5. Two people with similar knowledge of the new teachings concerning May 21, 2011 and Judgment Day receive different amounts of stripes.
Consider two unsaved people that have very similar knowledge of May 21, 2011 and the other new teachings. Yet one of them is part of the 3,000,000 people that will die in May 2011 before we reach the 21st. They both had about the same knowledge of the new teachings, yet the one who dies before May 21, 2011 escapes all of the stripes. However, the other man who had the same knowledge, enters Judgment Day to receive the extra stripes.
6. The information about May 21, 2011 and Judgment Day have been published worldwide for more than 3 years. During that time more than 150 million people have died without any of the stripes.
During the past 3 years the information about May 21, 2011 and Judgment Day has been published worldwide in more than 25 languages, growing to more than 50 languages. This message has reached many people throughout the world as it has been broadcast worldwide for more than 3 years.
During those past 3 years more than 150,000,000 people have died without any of the stripes of the 5 months. The argument is that the stripes of Luke 12:47-48 focus upon those hearing about May 21, 2011 and the details of Judgment Day. This message has been published worldwide for the past 3 years. So, a good number of the 150,000,000 people that have died during that time have heard that message. They have known these details of the Lord’s will. Yet, the escaped the stripes of the 5 months. However, the people of Matthew 24:39 who will know about Judgment Day will have to suffer the stripes of the 5 months. This does not agree with Luke 12:47-48.
7. A unsaved person who is very KNOWLEDGEABLE concerning May 21, 2011 and the other new teachings can escape the stripes.
How can an unsaved person who is very knowledgeable about May 21, 2011 and the other new teachings escape most all of the stripes?
If the Rapture comes on May 21, 2011, he can commit suicide. He is an unsaved person, so he does not really trust the Bible and therefore does not really believe that a horrible earthquake will happen on May 21, 2011. However, he has heard a lot of the teaching and the teaching seems somewhat credible, so that he thinks it might happen. Therefore, he makes preparation in case that it does happen. He could obtain a gun in advance or prepare a means to hang himself or one of many other means to kill himself.
He will be ready on May 21, 2011. If the Rapture occurs along with the big earthquake, he can quickly kill himself and avoid basically all of the stripes.
Committing suicide has been used by people throughout history to escape bad situations. For example, we have heard about investors who jumped out of the windows of tall buildings after the stock market crash of 1929. The same principle applies to those that know much of the “Lord’s will”. They know a lot about May 21, 2011 and about other new teachings. So, because of their greater knowledge, they can commit suicide and receive fewer stripes, just the opposite of the law laid down in Luke 12:47-48.
During the 5 months, many knowledgeable people in the Bible will be able to find a solution to receive "minimal stripes", the opposite of what Luke 12:47-48 says
When the world enters the final 5 months, there will be people who knew very little about the Bible. There will also be church people who knew a whole lot of the new teachings.
It will be possible for many church people, knowledgeable in the new teachings, to receive less stripes than those that knew very little about the Bible; just the opposite of Luke 12:47-48.
How? Today, there are a lot of church people that have heard about May 21, 2011 and the final 5 months, but they don't believe it. They don't think it's going to happen. However, because they are listening to the new teachings, they will be learning that suicide will be an escape from the pain and suffering.
When the Rapture comes on May 21, 2011, they will realize that those proclaiming May 21, 2011 were correct. They will have heard that there is no salvation possible at this point. They will also know that the world will be destroyed in 5 months; so there is no point to try to struggle through this time. They will realize that this new teaching was correct and that everything will be destroyed in 5 months. Because of their greater knowledge of the new teachings, they will know that the world will not recover from this situation, but will only be destroyed. Therefore, suicide is the logical escape. For a percentage of them, they will make that choice and kill themselves, escaping the majority of the suffering. There is always a percentage of people that will choose suicide to get out of a big disaster. We just have to recall the accounts of business men that jumped out of building windows after the 1929 stock market crash.
Because of their knowledge of new teachings, they will be able to avoid the majority of the suffering.
Whereas, those who don't know much about the Bible or the new teachings, will not know what this all means right away. They may think that God still has some plans of future blessing for this world. There will be a percentage of them that will continue to struggle until the end of the 5 months; not knowing that everything is going to be destroyed.
In the above two cases, the more knowledgeable church person will receive less stripes than the less knowledgeable person of the world, the opposite of Luke 12:47-48 declares.
Those with more knowledge of the new teachings will be able to frustrate the declaration of Luke 12:47-48
By committing suicide on May 22, 2011, unsaved servants who knew much of the Lord’s will about May 21, 2011 can receive fewer stripes because of their greater knowledge.
8. Luke 12:48 lays down a general principle of the law of God as we read “For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.”
The statement, “For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.” in verse 48 is laying down a general principle of the Kingdom of God. It is not written in a way to refer to only people here on May 21, 2011. It is written in a way to refer to all mankind throughout time.
Why would God establish the law, “For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.” and apply it only to people here on May 21, 2011 and not to people who were here on May 1, 2011?
How is it that someone here on May 21, 2011, to whom “much is given”, that God insists that “of him shall be much required” and yet another person that died on May 20, 2011 to whom “much is given”, but of him nothing shall be required? Remember the “required” of Luke 12:47-48 are the “stripes” of the wrath of God.
9. God is precise in His justice
As we consider the above situations that will violate the declaration of Luke 12:47-48 which promises more stripes to those that knew more of the Lord’s will, some people might be inclined to think along the lines that the implementation of this declaration is a little “fuzzy”. That is, there maybe some cases where people who knew a lot of the “Lord’s will” will be able to escape the stripes of the 5 months. In a similar way, people in this world are able to escape man’s justice frequently. For example, many people break the speed limit and are never caught for that violation. They are never subjected to the punishment of man’s justice for that violation. Whereas, some people who do break the same law are subjected to man’s justice because the police officer saw the violation.
We can tend to think of the “stripes” of the 5 months in the same way. Someone who was very knowledgeable of the new teachings, but yet is unsaved, can make preparation. He is ready to commit suicide when the earthquake comes. He escapes most all the “stripes” of the 5 months. Perhaps we think that the implementation of the law of Luke 12:47-48 is a little “fuzzy”. Some people will escape this law.
However, this is not possible. The law of God and God Himself are not “fuzzy”. God precisely carries out His Law for all mankind exactly perfectly.
God and His Law are very precise. The law of God must be carried out exactly as it is written for every person. No one can escape the law of Luke 12:47-48. It must be carried out exactly for every unsaved person.
This study has shown that the teachings that all of the “stripes” of the wrath of God are confined only to the 5 months beginning on May 21, 2011 and that there is no conscious resurrection of the unsaved do not agree with Luke 12:47-48 and other verses.
During the proposed 5 months, there would be great suffering or “stripes” endured by people that knew very little of the master’s will. Yet, there will be those that knew a whole lot about the new teachings and the Bible, but escaped and received no stripes by dying a few weeks or years before the end, or by committing suicide immediately after the Rapture.
But, this does not agree with Luke 12:47-48.