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DOES JUDE 7 TEACH THAT DESTRUCTION OF SODOM & GOMORRAH WAS THE ACTUAL PUNISHMENT OF ETERNAL FIRE?

Updated - 10/23/09

 

We read in Jude 7:

 

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

 

This verse appears to clearly teach that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah about 4,000 years ago was the actual suffering of the punishment of eternal fire.

 

However, a poor translation of a word in Jude 7 results in the conclusion that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah about 4,000 years was the “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire”. As we will see an accurate translation is that this destruction indicates that they are “subject to the vengeance of eternal fire”.

 

The Greek word translated “suffering” in this verse appears to teach that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah about 4,000 years was the actual suffering of the vengeance of eternal fire.

 

However, “suffering” is a misleading translation of the Greek word used in this verse; “upecw hupecho”. This word is only used once in the Bible; which is this verse. We don’t find this Greek word anywhere else in the Bible. There are several good New Testament words that mean “suffering” that God could have chosen.

 

 

There is no other Bible verse with this same Greek word translated “suffering” in Jude 7. However, this word is made of two common words. So, we are able to get understanding of it’s meaning.

 

 

This word translated “suffering” in Jude 7 is made of two words that are commonly found in the Bible.

 

The first word is a verb that is used many times and means “to have”.

 

The second word is a preposition that is translated many times as “of” or “under”.

 

So, this Greek word has the meaning “to have under” or “to have of”. The translators translated that as “suffering”. That was not a very good translation. Literally, the word should be translated as “to have under”.

 

 

A poor translation of a word in Jude 7 leads to misunderstanding

 

If we literally follow what this Greek word “hupecho” means, we would translate Jude 7 like this:

 

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, having under the vengeance of eternal fire.

 

The translation “having under” is literally what this Greek word “hupecho” means according to how the two root words are used in the Bible.

 

 

What does it mean to “have under” something?

 

The Bible directly gives us the answer to that question.

 

The two Greek words that make up this Greek word in Jude 7 are found in Luke 7:8. We read there:

 

For I also am a man set under authority, having <2192> under <5259> me soldiers, and I say unto one, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.

 

The two Greek words that make up the Greek word “hupecho” in Jude 7 are translated “having under” in Luke 7:8.

 

Luke 7:8 records the words of a centurion that is talking to Jesus. He mentions “having under me soldiers”.

 

This centurion is saying that his soldiers are subject to him. God is guiding the words that this centurion says. Here, God, through this centurion, is defining that the phrase “having under” means “to be subject to”. The soldiers were “subject” to their centurion. They were not “suffering” from their centurion.

 

 

Luke 7:8 uses the same two words that make up the Greek word translated “suffering” in Jude 7.

 

 

It is very significant that the two Greek words translated “having” and “under” in Luke 7:8 are the same two Greek words that make up this word “hupecho” that we find in Jude 7

 

 

Luke 7:8 uses the same two Greek words that make up the Greek word translated “suffering” in Jude 7. With the help of Luke 7:8, God is defining that this word in Jude 7 means “being subject to”.

 

 

To understand this further, let’s consider an illustration:

 

If I have an ant under my hand, is that ant suffering? Not necessarily. I could make him suffer by pushing down on him. But, the fact that this ant is under my hand is not indicating that he is actually suffering. Rather, the ant that I have under my hand is subject to my hand or subject to my will.

 

So, the translators made a leap that they should not have made in translating this word in Jude 7 as “suffering”. “to have under” does not necessarily mean “suffering”.

 

 

The Bible provides further definition for the phrase “to have under”

 

We see an example of the idea of “to have under” to mean “to be subject to” in Psalm 8:6.

 

We read in Psalm 8:6:

 

Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

 

This verse has it’s fulfillment in the Lord Jesus.

 

The Bible says that the Lord Jesus has all things under His feet. God has put all things under the feet of Christ according to Psalm 8:6. Therefore, the Lord Jesus “has under” His feet all things. The feet refer to the will.

 

According to Psalm 8:6, the Lord Jesus “has under” His will all things. Psalm 8:6 helps us to understand what God means by this Greek word “hupecho” in Jude 7, which literally means “to have under”.

 

The “feet” here refer to the will. The Lord Jesus “has under” His will all things.

 

 

That does not mean that all things are “suffering”, but rather that all things are “subject” to the will of God.

 

 

This agrees with the first part of Psalm 8:6 which says that Christ has dominion over everything.

 

We can say that God “has the unsaved under” his feet. That is, the unsaved are “subject” to the feet or the will of God.

 

 

Notice that the first part of Psalm 8:6 agrees that “to have under” means to have “dominion”, which means “to be subject to”.

 

 

Christ has “dominion” over all the works of God’s hand. That means that all the works of God’s hand are “subject” to Christ. They are not “suffering” from Christ. Rather, all things are “subject” to the will (or feet) of Christ.

 

 

Psalm 8:6 helps us to understand what God means by this Greek word “hupecho” in Jude 7.  This word means “to have under” which signifies to be “subject to”.

 

 

God quotes Psalm 8:4-6 in Hebrews 2:6-8 and thereby gives us more help in understanding.

 

 

Hebrews 2:6-8 gives more help in understanding the phrase “having under”

 

 

God quotes Psalm 8:4-6 in Hebrews 2:6-8.

 

We read in Hebrews 2:5-8:

 

5 ¶ For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.

6  But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?

7  Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:

8  Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

 

Let’s compare that to Psalm 8:6. We read there:

 

Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

 

 

Notice that Psalm 8:6 is quoted in Hebrews 2:7-8. However, God has changed the verse a little to give more information.

 

In Psalm 8:6 God said “thou hast put all things under his feet.”. In Hebrews 2:8 God changed that a little to give us more definition. God said “Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet.

 

We see that God has interpreted the phrase “put all things under his feet” to mean “in subjection”.

 

This same Greek word translated “subjection” in Hebrews 2:8 is used in these verses also:

 

Luke 10:17  And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject <5293> unto us through thy name.

 

Romans 13:1  Let every soul be subject <5293> unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

 

Ephesians 1:22  And hath put <5293> all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

 

Ephesians 5:24  Therefore as the church is subject <5293> unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

 

 

Notice how Ephesians 1:22 uses the idea of “to put under” to mean “subjection”.

 

If all things are “put under” Christ’s feet or will, then that means that Christ “has all things under” His will. All things are “subject” to His will.

 

This is further confirmation that “to have under” means “to be subject to”.

 

Psalm 8:6 and Hebrews 2:8 declare that the Lord Jesus has all things under His will (or feet). That means, that all things are subject to His will. All things are not suffering from His will.

 

 

In Luke 7:8, Psalm 8:6, and Hebrews 2:8, God defines that “having under” means “to be subject to”

 

 

The translation “subject to” of this Greek word in Jude 7 fits the definition given by Psalm 8:6, Luke 7:8 and the other verses. This would give us a translation of Jude 7 like:

 

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, being subject to the vengeance of eternal fire.

 

The translation “being subject to” is an accurate translation. This translation also fits what we will learn about Sodom and Gomorrah from 2 Peter 2:6, a passage that we will study a little later.

 

Jude 7 is saying that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire shows that they are subject to the vengeance of eternal fire. It does not say that their destruction 4,000 years was the actual suffering of eternal fire. Rather, it shows that they are subject to eternal fire.

 

The rest of the Bible teaches that this eternal fire is coming and Jude 7 teaches that when it comes, Sodom and Gomorrah are subject to it.

 

This fits the rest of the Bible that declares that when the unsaved die from this world there is no more possibility of salvation for them. They are subject to the vengeance of eternal fire, the wrath of God. God is the consuming fire in view.

 

As we go through the Bible and see these various destructions, we are warned about our standing before God. We are also taught that those destroyed are “subject” to the wrath of God because they died from this world unsaved.

 

 

There is other information in Jude 7 and 2 Peter 2:6 that help us to see that the translation, “being subject to”, is correct.

 

 

Let’s examine the word “example” in Jude 7

 

The word “example” in Jude 7 makes us think that the destruction at the end of the world is the same as that of Sodom with the destruction of Sodom being one “example” of the final destruction.

 

However, we should take a closer look at this Greek word translated “example” in Jude 7.

 

The Greek word translated “example” in Jude 7 is only used in this one verse. So, we don’t get any help from any other verse in the Bible to get a definition for it.

 

This word “example” is only used in Jude 7. The closest related word is a verb translated “make a show” in Colossians 2:15 where we read:

 

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

 

Here, the Lord Jesus “showed” openly on the cross His triumph over the dominion of Satan.

 

In the same way, Jude 7 is saying that the Sodom and Gomorrah are set forth as a “showing” that the unsaved are subject to the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 7 does not mean that their destruction was a literal example of the vengeance of eternal fire. Rather, it “shows” that Sodom and Gomorrah are subject to the vengeance of eternal fire.

 

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah “show” that the people of those cities are “subject” to the vengeance of eternal life.

 

 

There is also another verb that is close to the Greek word translated “example” in Jude 7. It appears in the New Testament 30 times and is always translated “show”.

 

Here are some verses with that Greek word:

 

Matthew 4:8  Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth <1166> him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

 

John 2:18  Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou <1166> unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

 

Hebrews 8:5  Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed <1166> to thee in the mount.

 

James 3:13  Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew <1166> out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

 

 

Therefore, if we let other verses guide us to understand the meaning of the word “example” in Jude 7, then we see that it is very close to a “showing”.

 

 

With these two translation corrections, we obtain this translation of Jude 7:

 

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for a showing, being subject to the vengeance of eternal fire.

 

 

Related to these translation corrections, we learn:

 

1. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is a dramatic “showing” to mankind of the wrath of God.

 

2. Their destruction shows that they are “subject” to the vengeance of eternal fire.

 

 

 

2 Peter 2:6 provides help in understanding Jude 7

 

 

We have some trouble understanding what God is teaching in Jude 7 because there are two words in that verse, “suffering” and “example” that are only used once and are poorly translated, so that we easily arrive at the wrong conclusion.

 

 

However, God has provided 2 Peter 2:6 which has a key word that is used several times in the Bible. This verse provides a Biblical understanding of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

 

 

God gives help in understanding the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah in 2 Peter 2:6 where we read:

 

And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

 

This verse is also talking about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and is similar to Jude 7, but gives additional information. This verse tells us that their destruction was an “ensample” to the unsaved. This is a different word than the word “example” in Jude 7.

 

 

The benefit that the word “ensample” in 2 Peter 2:6 is that it is used in other parts of the Bible and therefore is more clearly defined by the Bible.

 

 

This word “ensample” is a key word with Strong’s number <5262> and is used in two verses in Hebrews where we read:

 

Hebrews 8:5  Who serve unto the example <5262> and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

 

Hebrews 9:23 ¶ It was therefore necessary that the patterns <5262> of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

 

In these two verses this Greek word translated “ensample” in 2 Peter 2:6 is used to describe the Old Testament ceremonial system.

 

These two verses in Hebrews make an important point. Namely, the Old Testament ceremonial system was an “ensample” or “pattern” of the heavenly things, but was not actual heavenly things themselves.

 

 

This is a key point: This word “ensample” in 2 Peter 2:6 signifies a pattern of spiritual truth, but not the actual spiritual truth itself

 

 

That is, the word “ensample” as used in Hebrews 8:5 & 9:23 describes something that is a pattern of spiritual truth but not the actual spiritual truth itself. The Old Testament ceremonial law system was a pattern of God’s salvation program. However, the Old Testament ceremonial law system was not the actual salvation program itself. This truth is explained in Hebrews 9:23 above.

 

 

For example, the Passover was a pattern of the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus for sin but it was not the actual sacrifice. The Passover teaches some truths about the sacrifice of Christ, but is not the actual sacrifice.

 

 

The Passover was a pattern that pointed to the sacrifice that the Lord Jesus would make to pay for sins. But, the Passover ceremony itself did not pay for any sins. The Lord Jesus in His sacrifice paid for the sins.

 

In that way, the ceremony of the Passover was a pattern that taught about the salvation program but was not the actual salvation program itself.

 

 

Likewise, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was a pattern of the vengeance of God, but is not the actual vengeance. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah teaches some truths about the vengeance of God, but is not the actual vengeance.

 

 

This same Greek word translated “ensample” in 2 Peter 2:6 is also found in John 13:15.

 

We read in John 13:12-16:

 

12  So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?

13  Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.

14  If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another’s feet.

15  For I have given you an example <5262>, that ye should do as I have done to you.

16  Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

 

 

In this passage, the Lord Jesus has washed the disciples feet with water. In verse 15, Jesus says that He has given them an “example” for what they should do for others. This word “example” in verse 15 is the same Greek word translated “ensample” in 2 Peter 2:6.

 

 

If we think about what the Lord is teaching in John 15:13 we realize that this word really means “pattern”. The washing of the disciples’ feet was a “pattern” of the Gospel.

 

 

Jesus washed the disciple’s feet with water and called that an “example” for them to follow.

 

We realize that God has not commanded us to literally wash peoples’ feet. Rather, we are to bring them the Gospel. When God saves someone, then God washes away their sins. He becomes clean in the sight of God. The feet often represent the will of man. When God saves us, He washes our will in the sense that He is directing our will to do His will. In that way our will (our feet) are washed.

 

 

We can see that Jesus washing the disciples feet was a “pattern” for bringing the Gospel, but not the literal task of bringing the Gospel. In the same way, this Greek word directs us to see that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is a “pattern” of the vengeance of God, but not the actual vengeance.

 

 

God uses this same word “ensample” in 2 Peter 2:6 to describe the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. By this word, God is indicating that the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah is an “ensample” or “pattern” of the eternal destruction of the unsaved, but not the actual eternal destruction of the unsaved. This is like the Old Testament ceremonial system was an “ensample” or “pattern” of the heavenly things, but not the actual heavenly things. This is also like Jesus’ washing the feet of the disciples. That was a “pattern” of bringing the Gospel, but not the actual bringing of the Gospel.

 

Going back to the Passover lamb. That lamb was killed in the Passover service. That lamb was a picture of the Lord Jesus Christ that was killed in payment for the believers’ sins. That Passover lamb was only a pattern of payment for sin. It was not the actual payment for sins. In the same way, 2 Peter 2:6 teaches that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was not the actual vengeance of eternal fire. It was only a pattern of the vengeance of eternal fire.

 

 

God indicates that there are other differences between the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah and the judgment of the unsaved at the end of the world.

 

 

Regarding the judgment of the unsaved at the end of the world, God says:

 

Revelation 14:11  And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

 

Revelation 19:3  And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

 

Revelation 20:10  And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

 

 

In these verses we can see two differences between the judgment of the unsaved and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

 

 

1. The smoke of the unsaved ascends forevermore. The smoke of Sodom and Gomorrah came to an end.

 

Revelation 14:11 and 19:3 teach that the smoke of the unsaved ascends forevermore.

 

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God is clear that the smoke of the unsaved ascends forevermore.

 

People will say that their smoke does not really ascend forevermore. However, God says that it does.

 

 

There are no verses that nullify the statement that the smoke of the unsaved ascends forevermore.

 

 

A “pattern” will match in many ways but usually not in every way. In the “pattern” of Sodom and Gomorrah, the smoke did not ascend forevermore. It ascended for a while, but not forevermore.

 

 

2. The unsaved are tormented “day and night”. The inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah were burned up in one morning. They were not tormented “day and night”.

 

Revelation 14:9-11 & 20:10 clearly say that the unsaved at Judgment Day will be tormented “day and night”. Torment is a conscious affliction.

 

In the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, God rained down fire from heaven and burned those cities up in one morning. The people were not tormented “day and night”.

 

Those burnt up by a literal fire are not tormented “day and night”. They go unconscious in a few seconds or minutes.

 

 

These two differences between the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and the judgment at the last day further substantiate that their destruction was a “pattern” for Judgment Day, but not the actual destruction.

 

 

 

Jude 7 and 2 Peter 2:6 are not teaching that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah about 4,000 years is the actual suffering of the vengeance of eternal fire, but rather it is a pattern of the coming vengeance of God like the Old Testament ceremonial laws were patterns of God’s salvation program. That destruction also indicates that Sodom and Gomorrah are subject to the vengeance of God.

 

 

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